Khloé Kardashian has two beautiful babies—and that is enough.
During an appearance on Thursday’s episode of The Kelly Clarkson Show, the Good American cofounder revealed she’s done having kids. The news came two months after she welcomed her second child, a son, with ex Tristan Thompson via surrogate.
“I’m one of both, and I think I’m good, shop is closed,” Kardashian told Clarkson of having a daughter and a son.
She also spoke of how different her experiences were with each child, as she carried daughter True Thompson, 4, but ended up going the surrogacy route with her son.
“I had reasons why I couldn’t carry my second,” she said, calling surrogacy “such a blessing.” Kardashian said sister Kim Kardashian’s experiences with surrogacy gave her the confidence to try it herself, but it was very difficult.
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“For me, I’m such a control freak. You’re a stranger, I just have to trust you?” she explained. “I love my surrogate, she was amazing, but I’m still like, ‘I need you sitting next to me all the time. I need to know what are you’re doing. What are you eating?'”
Kardashian has not revealed her son’s name, but did joke about True’s nickname for him.
“My daughter says his name is Snowy, and it’s not Snowy,” she said. “So that’s the hint. I swear, she just does things to sort of, like, mess with me. But his name is not Snowy.”
Speaking to Clarkson, Kardashian also opened up about learning to “un-love” Thompson after his recent paternity scandal (which broke them up for good) and multiple cheating scandals throughout their relationship.
“I don’t think [the love] goes away. Like, my ex-husband, I genuinely still love and I want the best for him and I’m still rooting for him, but we all, I think, just change or evolve,” she said, referring to her ex-husband, Lamar Odom. “And when I said, ‘I’m learning how to un-love Tristan,’ I think people whether it be family or friends or anyone that you’re telling your story to, they’re like, ‘Okay, so move on.’ And I’m like, ‘Oh, no. It’s not that easy.'”
This article originally appeared in Harper’s BAZAAR US.